17th (Service)Bn
The XX Lancashire Fusiliers
(1st South East Lancs)
Bantam Bn
A Bantun Battalion is made up of soldiers who were under 5 foot 3 inches
We now have copies of the 17th Bn War Diaries but to big to go on site if you want info please contact Geoff or Myself


The Movements of the 17th Battalion


PRIVATE WILLIAM OSMOND YATES,
17th Lancashire Fusiliers,
Killed in action, November 24th, 1916;
Aged 25 years.

SENT IN BY


From Paul Bownes. I have recently discovered that my Grand Father
Charles Bownes was a member of 17th Bn in WW1.

Charles Bownes is on the
right, my dad Joseph Henry Bownes centre and my Grandmother Annie on the
left. As you can see all diminutive in stature (my Dad was 5' 2 1/2")
but obviously all heart and courage. My guess it was taken around 1939
when grandad was 61.

Charles Bownes
Lancashire Fusiliers Private 14145
Royal Engineers Private 608164
Archive Reference:
WO 372/3/14317
(Can be found at The National Archives in Kew, and contains First World War, War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index)


Died on 28/09/1918
Private John William Furber

17th Lancashire Fusiliers

Private J. W. Furber, of the Lancashire Fusiliers, who resided at 13, Kay Street, Middleton, was killed on September 28th, 1918, having been home on furlough only a week before he fell. This soldier enlisted on May 31st, 1916, and went to France on August 28th of the same year.
He was wounded in the chest on September 26th, 1916, and was invalided home, but went out to the front again on January 15th, 1917. The late soldier was a member of the Primitive Methodist Church and School, Middleton Junction, was on the Band of Hope Committee, as well as being a member of the Scouts.

Sadly, Private Furber has no known grave, and his name is on the Tyne Cot Memorial.




Sgt John Lord MM from Bolton

Lt Col Arthur Mordaunt Mills
Lt Col Arthur Mordaunt Mills DSO, who took over the 17th LF Bantams from Lt Col W J McWhinnie on the 15th April 1916 to 1918 when he returned to command his own regiment the 18th Bengal Lancers in the Palestine campaign

Arthur Mordaunt Mills 1879-1964
Major-General Sir Arthur Mordaunt Mills, C.B., D.S.O ( with 2 bars and Mentioned in Dispatches 3 times)
Arthur was born on 13 August 1879, the son of Colonel Arthur McLeod Mills and Elizabeth Louisa Jane Pughe, at Hythe, Kent. He joined 3 Royal Sussex Regt (Militia) 1900; transferred to 1 Bn, Devonshire Regt 1901; South African War 1901-1902; transferred to 18 Bengal Lancers, Indian Army 1902; Adjutant & Quartermaster, Staff College, Quetta 1913-1914; World War I 1914-1918; Staff Capt, France 1915; 14 Bn, Gloucestershire Regt 1915-1916; Commander, 17 Bn, Lancashire Fusiliers 1916-1917; Instructor, Senior Officers School, Woking 1921-1924; Commander, 2 Bn, 4 Prince of Wales' Own Gurkha Rifles 1925-1929; Assistant Adjutant General, Northern Command, India 1929-1930; Cdr, Razmak Brigade, Waziristan, North West Frontier, India 1930-1934; Aide-de-camp to the King 1933-1935; Military Adviser-in-Chief, Indian State Forces 1935-1939; retired 1939; Col, 4 Prince of Wales' Own Gurkha Rifles 1935-1950.


Sent in by his grandson, Sebastian Mills

Joseph Sim


Joseph is seated



sent in by Phillip Middleton Joseph's grandson



The Bantams the 17th Battalion (Bantams made up of volunteers who were under 5 foot 3 inches tall) March from Bury Barracks
to the Hutments at Chadderton Oldham on March 16th 1915 before being deployed.


Captain Harry Gray Leaver
17th Lancashire Fusiliers
17 November 1980 Age : 85



Medal Card
17th Lan Fus Rank - Lieut
17th Lan Fus Rank - T/Capt
17th Lan Fus Rank - Capt
Victory Medal. Roll Lan Fus of 130. Page 6c.
British Medal. Roll Lan Fus of 130. Page 6c.
Remarks - IVX/531a/4-10-21NW/6/12482
Theatre of war first served in - France
Date of entry therein - March 1916. NW/6/12482
Correspondence - Return EF9 19-9-1921
Address - Glen View, Pike Hill Burnley
Worsthorne Officer
Military Cross For Lieutenant H.G. Leaver

Lieut. H.G. Leaver, Lancashire Fusiliers, son of Mr. J.S. Leaver, postmaster of Worsthorne, and Mrs. Leaver, Pike hill, has been awarded the Military Cross. The distinction has been earned while Acting-Captain during the German offensive. Lieut. Leaver has been in France two years, and has taken part in many engagements, having been twice wounded


2nd Lieutenant George Mervyn Heap


George Mervyn Heap 1892-1968, Bachelor and Solicitor
1914-1918 2nd Lieutenant in the Lancashire Fusiliers
Medals Received
Corps - Lan Fus x2- Rank - Lieut
Corps - Lan Fus - Rank - Lieut
Victory Medal. Lanc Fus x OFF Roll 130 Page 5E
British Medal. Roll OFF Roll 130 Page 5E
Theatre of war first served in - France
Date of entry therein - -12 16 NW/6/32654
Correspondence
App. for medals d/15/24
E.F.0 ret af 8.5.24
Address Town Hall, Blackpool, Lancashire


Number 14595 Pte F Hayde
Mentioned in Despatches 13th November 1916.

Click here for the London-Gazette entry
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/29890/supplements/226


Died on 22/05/1917
Private Norman Adam Holden
17th Lancashire Fusiliers

Private Norman A. Holden of the Lancashire Fusiliers, died in hospital at Rouen on May 22nd, 1917, from wounds received in France.
He was the son of Mrs Holden, and the late Robert Harvey Holden, 22 Sadler Street, Middleton, and was only 20 years of age. He was formerly employed at the Middleton Education Offices and afterwards a clerk in the Army Store at Burscough near Southport.
He was connected with Providence Church, being educated at Providence Day School and afterwards at the Central High School for boys at Manchester. A Chaplain wrote to Mrs Holden. "I deeply regret having to inform you that your dear boy passed away a few minutes ago.
I have seen him each day since his arrival here. I was with him this morning and again tonight. I prayed with him a few days ago, and had hardly finished praying for him tonight when his soul took its flight. I feel very, very sorry for you. I pray that God will comfort and keep you. You need have no regrets regarding his death other that that you cannot see him in this life again.
He was a believer in Christ and died trusting in him. His death was caused by a wound he received whilst fighting for his country and the cause of righteousness, therefore it is highly honourable. He was loved by us all here. He was a very good young fellow. We all regret is death; we did want him to get better. Do you not think of him as dead; he is not dead but lives with Christ. You will meet him one day in that land where there is no parting. Let this truth comfort you."

Private Holden is laid to rest at St Sever Cemetery Extension, France.

 


War Diaries of POWs

14133 Pte Lord Harris
Captured 25th August 1916 at the Somme
Wounded with Bullet in right hand

14472 Pte William Pearson
Captured Guillmont
26th August 1916
Unwounded he was interviewed with 3 others

202658 L/Cpl Albert Winterbottom
Captured St Quentin
21st March 1918
Unwounded



sent by
Samantha Frost
Henry John Hughes, (Samantha's grandfather)
gassed and invalided out in 1917.

Private (and later) L/CPL Henry John Hughes Number 14216
I believe he signed up 29th Dec 1914, and I have records stating he was hospitalised in Berrigton War hospital in Shrewsbury which is stamped 27th February 1917 (Im not sure if this is date of admittance as part of the document is missing)


Henry John Hughes
Henry would have gone to France on the 30th January 1916.
He would have then fought in many of the most ferocious battles during 1916 including the Somme.

The 17th Bn were attacked by the enemy using Gas in November 1916 at Arras, I believe that this is where he would have suffered his gas injuries which took hime home to Shrewsbury in early 1917.

this is a link to the hospital:-

http://www.institutions.org.uk/pictures/MH/berrington_war_hospital.htm

Dear Joe,

I cannot thank you enough for the information you have provided. At last I can tell a fairly accurate story of his life! thank you so much!

I have attached a photograph of Henry and also a photograph I have found in my grandmothers collection -Im not sure if its WW1, WW2, which regiment it may or who is even in the picture - I just like that theyre smiling.

Kind regards,
Samantha


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"This item was sent in by Carole Edwards.It is a silver cup won by her grandfather
15394 Pte J Male.
for winning the cross country race held at the 35 Division Sports Day on the 4th January 1918
at a place called Poperinghe in Belgium.

"Pops" was never out of British hands, and was something of a haven behind the lines,
although it was subjected to shelling that grew in intensity throughout the war.
Here men could find shops, estaminets, restaurants, billets and a hundred different military establishments,
as well as the leave trains for England.
There were always medical units here: 677 British soldiers who died of wounds at nearby Casualty Clearing Stations lie in Poperinge New Military Cemetery (Click on link)
...as do several men executed for military crimes.


The Bantam football team


" My Great Grandfather was in the Lancashire Fusiliers and was KIA in WWI.
The photo is of a Bantams Football Team he was in, he was Lance Corporal Thomas Lander 15360 17th Battalion, his grave is at Villers-Faucon Communal Cemetery.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=235816
He is the first on the left in the back row"

Sent in by great grandaughter Natalie Madoc-Jones.

My great grandfather, James Maloney (1881-1917), was a corporal in WW1 with the Lancashire Fusiliers. He was in D company of the 17th Battalion. His number was 21374.

He was born in Liverpool and was a baker and (luggage)porter before the War. He married Mary Connor in 1901.

He was killed on 26th July, 1917. At that time, the Battalion was in trenches in Epehy. The family story is that he was killed by a sniper.

My great grandmother (his wife/ Mary) used to tell an eerie story: she was home in Liverpool washing plates in the kitchen. She felt a presence. She looked out the window and saw her husband James. He was blankly staring at her.

After that, Mary knew she would be receiving a telegram.

She did.

He is buried in Villiers-Faucon Cemetery (Peronne) in Grave 32, RowD.

On the Lancashire Fusiliers Website, (See above) Natalie Madoc-Jones has posted a photograph ( The Bantams' Football Team) of her great-grandfather, L/Corporal Thomas Lander. Actually, he is buried near my great grandfather in Villers-Faucon.

We believe that my great-grandfather is the man standing at the back on the far right.

Yours,

Tony McCarthy.

Rank:Corporal
Service No:21374
Date of Death:26/07/1917
Age:35
Regiment/Service:Lancashire Fusiliers

"D" Coy. 17th Bn.
Grave Reference:
D. 32.
Cemetery:
VILLERS-FAUCON COMMUNAL CEMETERY


Additional Information:
Son of Dan and Margaret Maloney, of Liverpool; husband of Mary Maloney, of 8, Lace St., Fontenoy St., Liverpool.

updated 28th May 2017
I have read (in collaboration with my cousin, Anthony Rimmington) the War Diary of the 17th Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers, and should like to add to my earlier posting re Corporal James Maloney (1881-1917).


The posting concerns the circumstances of his death and identifies other Fusiliers fallen that day (26/7/1917).


The War Diary Reads:


24/7/1917: [17th] Battalion in trenches. Nothing to report.


25/7/1917: night patrols sent out. No enemy contact. Nothing to report.
A German deserter arrives in trenches. He warns that the enemy intends to attach following day (26/7/1917) between 04h00 and 06h00.


26/7/1917: 06h00: enemy bombards trenches.
06h10: enemy lays down a smoke barrage.
Enemy begins a raid on 13th Yorkshires ( they are to left of 17th Lancashire Fusiliers)
Nothing to report for rest of day.
Following enemy raid, 17th Battalion casualties are: 3 officers wounded; 39 Other Ranks wounded and 4 Other Ranks killed.


31/7/1917: Battalion relieved by 23 Manchesters. 17 Battalion ( Lancashire Fusiliers) strength is recorded as: Officers: 40; Other Ranks: 656.
17th Lancashire Fusiliers casualty figures for month of July (1917): Officers: 3 wounded; Other ranks: 4 killed and 43 wounded.


The four dead Other Ranks were buried in Villiers Faucon Cemetery (Peronne) and were:


1) Private Ernest Collinge:
Birth Place: Rawtenstall, Lancashire [born: 1885]
Death Date: 26 Jul 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders [ Plot D 31. Villiers Faucon]
Enlistment Place: Rawtenstall
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 17th Battalion
Regimental Number: 35967
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Ernest Collinge was married (1905) to Sarah. They had two children. Ernest was a cotton weaver before the War. They lived in Bury Road, Rawtenstall.


2) Corporal James Maloney (my great grandfather. His details already posted). Villiers Faucon: Plot D 32.


3 )Private Arthur Henry Elbrett
Birth Place: Sheffield [ Born: 1894]
Death Date: 26 Jul 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders [ Plot D 30. Villiers Faucon].
Enlistment Place: Sheffield
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 17th Battalion
Regimental Number: 14684
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Father was a coalminer.

4) Lance-Corporal Thomas Lander:


Birth Place: Willenhall, Staffs
Residence: Bolton, Lancs
Death Date: 26 Jul 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders [Villiers Faucon: Plot D 29].
Enlistment Place: Farnworth, Lancs
Rank: L Corporal
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 17th Battalion
Regimental Number: 15360
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

At time of enlistment, Thomas Lander lived in Bolton. He was an iron foundry worker. He was married to Margaret ( Patterson: born Bangor in 1887) and had one daughter).


The officers wounded on 26/7/1917 were:
1) Lt Richard Samuel Heape, MC. Later Captain. Survived War.
2) 2nd Lt G M Thompson. Survived War.
3) Capt. S A Bull ( Royal Army Medical Corps).


This is a possible short biography for R S Heape:
Born in Bedford in 1898.
Attended Rugby School (Hoston House)
Grandfather owned a textile mill in Rochdale, Lancashire.
May have been in RAF (VR) (Squadron Leader) in WW2
Later became a successful plantation (Belik Plantation,Namatania) owner in New Guinea, where he died in 1950.


Anthony McCarthy